How Did A Cup Of Coffee Lead To A Life Of Travel?

We’re Josh and Liz.  Who would have thought that something as small as a cup of coffee could change the course of our lives.

We certainly didn’t.

We were your typical twenty-somethings.  Working hard at our 9-5 jobs, trying to make our way in the world.   And we each had a passion for travel and exploring the world in our free time.

On the surface, it seemed like things were going well.  But we couldn’t shake this feeling that something was missing in our lives.

As fate would have it, we both resorted to an unconventional way of meeting.  But lucky for us, that coffee date was the first of many coffees together – all over the world.

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Countries We've Explored!

How Could We Travel So Much?

Liz grew up in a traveling family and traveled extensively on her own as an adult before meeting Josh. As a young adult Josh, traveled a lot with his friends and for work. But we both had a burning wanderlust to explore the world so much more!

Luckily, the two of us were able to meet.  We traveled a lot while dating, including overseas trips, and even more after we got married.  

Yes, we worked full time at “normal” jobs…and no, we didn’t win the lottery!  

Everyone wanted to know how we were doing it.  Friends and family were always coming to us for travel tips & advice.

Everyone Told Us That We Should Have A Website…So We Finally Listened.

And that’s how Peanuts or Pretzels came to be.


1.5+ Million Readers!

With Peanuts or Pretzels, we’ve combined our professional work experience in tourism, travel planning, and business with our life-long passion for travel. Our stories inspire and provide helpful information about popular, and off the beaten path travel destinations.  And we are proud to say that this online resource has helped millions of people from all over the world!

Our goal is to make trip planning easier & more fun for everyone.

If you have travel related questions or want to chat, then feel free to contact us.  Or you can start planning a trip right away!

Taking Our Lives and Work on the Road!

After a year of working full time on Peanuts or Pretzels and full time at our corporate jobs, we realized just how much we loved working on PoP.  We wanted to get out there and travel – exploring and working.  Unfortunately, our “normal” jobs were tying us down.

So just 2 years into our marriage, we decided to quit our “normal” jobs, sell everything and pursue our dreams of traveling and working on the road.

We set out on an Around the World Adventure in mid 2014.  And before we knew it, we were consulting with clients all over the world. 

Which led us to launch our consulting arm of the business – PoP Digital Media!

As of today, we run a media company that consists of multiple online businesses, including various websites, as well as our consulting business. We are what people call “digital nomads” because we can move around – traveling and working from wherever we want!  

The best part is that we get to do work that we enjoy while indulging our passion for travel.

But it’s not all sunsets and beaches.

It’s hard work.  But we love every minute of it!


Interested in Working Together?

We’ve been happy to partner with many organizations throughout the years. From content collaborations, building ambassador programs, developing a digital & brand strategy, social media support, consulting and more!

If You Are Interested In Talking With Us About Collaboration Opportunities, Please Visit Our Work With Us Page.

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